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Oct 27, 2018

I've been getting a lot of questions lately about the mysterious molecule I consume before I eat bread and pasta - a compound that allows me to digest gluten without any of the "bathroom decommissioning" that so notoriously occurs after a hefty bout of gluten consumption.

After all, I don't want to not eat bread or pasta for the rest of my life. I find them enjoyable.

But due to glyphosate exposure from pesticides and herbicides, stress, a leaky gut and other modern assailants that make gluten a bigger issue than it ever has been in human history, I use a bit of better living through science to make gluten digestible.

In today's podcast, I interview the inventors of Gluten Guardian - Matt Gallant and Wade Lightheart - the guys who first appeared in the podcast "Probiotic Enemas, Digestive Enzyme Myths, Breathing 10 Kilograms of Oxygen, Low-Protein Diets & More!" and later in my article "How To Take Digestive Enzymes".

Matt Gallant is an entrepreneur, a poker champion, an ex-rock guitarist, a serial entrepreneur (who's built 13 companies in the last 20 years) strength and conditioning coach with a degree in kinesiology, the CEO and co-founder of a company called BiOptimizers.

Wade T. Lightheart, host of the AWESOME Health Podcast, 3-time All Natural National Bodybuilding Champion, advisor to the American Anti-Cancer Institute and Cofounder of BiOptimizers.

He is also the author of several books including the best-selling books, “Staying Alive in a Toxic World” and “The Wealthy Backpacker.” MARGE LINK TO WADE'S BOOKS

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-Why Matt eats between 6-10,000 calories every Sunday...7.36

  • For the calorie spike.
    • One meal per day for 6 days.
    • A combo of healthy and regular food.
    • Matt feels great afterwards.
    • He takes the day off from training.

-Why we should be cognizant of our gluten intake, even if we don't have celiac disease...10:30

  •  New England Journal of Medicine listed 55 diseases that can be caused by eating gluten.
  • Many times we're not aware of these diseases; can be immune, neurological and psychiatric.
  • Differences between wheat germ in the gluten and gluten itself.
    • Different type of protein.
    • Both are resistant to digestion.
    • Can make the gut more permeable. (Leaky gut)
  • Amylase/trypsin inhibitors come packaged with gluten - specifically wheat.
  • What about other factors to leaky gut such as stress and glyphosate.
    • 4x increase in celiac disease; traced to glyphosate interrupting the digestive process.
    • Will continue to increase due to the exposure to glyphosate.

 -The use of enzymes in the preparation of food to increase its palatability...18:10

  • In a perfect world, you'd be eating pre-digested food primarily.
  • You use enzymes to assist with breaking food down.

-Do Matt and Wade recommend any panels for evaluating gluten sensitivity or gluten cross reactivity?...20:30

  • Anti-tissue trans glutaminase or endomysial antibody.
  • Recommend Cyrex.
  • Helps you know if other foods such as coffee or quinoa are exacerbating your level of gluten intolerance.
  • Also testing gliad and peptide antibodies.

How does gluten negatively affect the brain?...24:00

  • Inflames the brain by causing an auto-immune response.
    • Antibodies intended to protect your body actually attack your body.
  • During the digestive process, gluten can be broken down into proteins similar to psychedelic drugs.
    • Has an addictive quality.
  • Overloads the brain with glutamate.
    • Irritates and damages brain cells.
  • Negative impact on your social life.

-What Wade REALLY thinks about Monsanto...29:50

  • They were written into protection against lawsuits by federal law during the previous administration.
  • Demonstrable evidence of their products causing damage to the body.
  • Has been bought out by Bayer.
  • Food has essentially been mutated, much to our detriment.
  • Destroy livelihoods of small farmers.

-The product Matt uses to pre-digest gluten before you even eat it...37:00

  • Dipeptidyl peptidase 4, also DPP-4.
  • Dissolves bread placed in water in 15 minutes (watch the video below)
  • You take it while you eat.
  • Does DPP-4 actually mitigate symptoms of gluten intolerance?
    • Depends on the dosage.
    • Can be taken as late as the day after eating.
  • Citrusy foods have been found to inhibit DPP-4
    • Breaks down various hormones in the body such as insulin.

-Does DPP-4 have any effect on foods not containing gluten?...45:00

  • Milk proteins, but not milk sugars like lactose.
  • Good idea to add DPP-4 if you have a plant-based diet.
  • Just mix and match until you find the right combination for you, and for the right meals.
  • Safe for children to ingest.

-More on Matt and Wade's diet and workout regimen...49:50

-How do HCL and hydrochloric acid work with Gluten Guardian?...54:55

  • Plays a supportive role
  • Stomach acid decreases after the age of 35
  • Simulates the effects of apple cider vinegar
  • P3-OM 
    • Optimal time to take is before bed or first thing in the morning, rather than meal time.

-Matt plays "myth busters" with colonizing properties of probiotics...58:41

-Special offer from Matt and Wade...1:04:15

  • Get 10% off your order of Gluten Guardian when you use code "greenfield" at
  • 365 day unconditional money-back guarantee
  • Brand new offer: "we'll fix your digestion guarantee"

Resource from this episode:

-Gluten Guardian - get 10% off already discounted price with code GREENFIELD


-Cyrex blood panel for gluten allergy

-Book: Grain Brain

-A1 vs. A2 milk

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