Aug 6, 2020
I recently got my hands on Dr. Paul Saladino's new book
Now, if you don't know who Paul is, then you must listen to
my previous episodes with him, including:
Since I've interviewed Paul, he has published this new
book, and after reading it, I had plenty of tough questions for
-How do we *know* the reason our stomachs became 1000x
more acidic than a chimp is because of animal food
-Is the decline in height and health fully attributable to
plant/agriculture, or could it be due to industrialization, crowded
-Why do you say present hunter gatherers no longer have
access to large game?
-You say herbivores can detoxify plant toxins, but we
can't. How do they do it?
-All the isothiocyanate studies are in vivo for human
cells. How positive are you the results are replicated in
-You say hypothyroidism/crucifer intake is *reported* in
Western culture. What's that mean, exactly? Anecdotes?
-When you list the "Bad News Gang", like cigarettes,
alcohol, etc. couldn't you just as easily lump exercise, cold,
heat, sunlight, etc. in with factors that turn on NRF2? If so, how
do you personally describe your differentiation between good vs.
bad NRF2 activators?
-The studies showing value for elimination of
fruit/vegetable consumption are pretty short (10-12 weeks). Any
longer term studies? And did these studies factor in how the
produce was being prepared (e.g. presence of oils, organic vs.
-When you say high intake of isoflavones causes endocrine
disruption, how much is high? Same thing with Chaga for liver
cancer (pg 81). Isn't that a shit-ton of chaga?
-If polyphenols reduce intestinal enzyme
production, couldn't other plant compounds, such as
bitters/herbs/spices, along with adequate chewing, combat that by
increasing enzyme production?
-You say resveratrol has repeatedly shown lack of value in
human studies, but what about Sinclair's research? Hasn't he shown
-I found it fascinating the claim that plant-based eaters
still "crave" or are attracted to meat, but how is an ERP measured
-You say that carbohydrates that accompany plant fiber can
spike insulin. That's painting with a pretty broad brush, isn't it?
I think the lion's share of plants don't result in an appreciable
insulin spike, do they?
-You say meat is not associated with cancer, but what
about if active tumor growth already exists? Would you change
anything if you had cancer?
-The study on telomere length being increased only by red
meat was an observational study on 28 people. Any other studies
looking directly at telomere or Horvath clock responses to plant
vs. animal intake that are larger, more robust or
-You say that fruits are seeds coated in natural candy,
but can't we eat the fruit flesh and "leave the seeds
-What do you say about all the studies showing reduced
risk of liver cancer, diabetes, etc. amongst regular coffee
-You say unrendered fat is your preference. Any studies on
rendered vs. unrendered fat health, nutrient quality,
-You say oleosins from coconut/olive oil may cause a
strong allergic reaction. How conclusive is that?
Whew! You'd think after all these questions, Paul would let me
know I'm being a total pain in the butt, but instead, he graciously
offered to do a solosode answering all these questions and
highlighting many other up-to-date details on the carnivore
In Paul's solosode, you'll discover:
-An overview of the carnivore diet...6:45
-"Rabbit starvation" and the ideal ratio of protein to fat
to shoot for...15:40
-How plants and agriculture have contributed to the decline in
human height and health...27:45
-Why present hunter gatherers no longer have access to large
-How our stomachs became 1000x more acidic than that of a chimp
because of animal food consumption...39:45
-Why herbivores can detoxify plant toxins, but humans
-Studies on the effects of isothiocyanates in
-The difference between environmental and molecular
-A high intake of isoflavones causes endocrine disruption, how
much is "high"? Same thing with Chaga for liver
-Why Resveratrol has limited value for humans...1:29:45
-How to measure Event Related Potentials (ERP)...1:37:00
-Whether plants do or do not spike insulin
-What changes in the diet to make if you have
-The correlation between meat intake and telomere
-Lightning round questions...2:05:10
-And much more!
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